[clue] 17" Linux-based laptop

Thu Oct 11 12:44:55 MDT 2012

I also wonder about the actual value of the microsoft tax.  I think
that it is cool that companies sell machines with linux pre-installed
and I'd go for it if the dollar amount was comparable.

I guess what I'm saying is that I'd rather ship jobs overseas and do
my own re-partion/install than pay extra for a linux pre-installed
box.  Call me unpatriotic.

chris

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Shawn T Perry <shawn at redmop.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure why I'd buy any of those three laptops.  They all cost about
> 200 more than the ones that come with Windows from other vendors, and I can
> install Ubuntu or whatever myself.  Heck, I'll wipe and reinstall Windows
> after I image it anyway.
>
> I'm all for open source, but I fail to see a Microsoft Tax here.  Also, I
> regularly use Windows for both work and games.  WINE just doesn't cut it
> yet.
>
> I've also yet to see a pre-installed Linux laptop with battery life
> mentioned, or specs that I want (13-14 inch, >720p, matte, I7, nVidia,
> light, 7+ battery which pretty much means Optimus, at least 8 GB ram,
> replaceable HDD to upgrade to high performance SSD).  I'm currently looking
> at the Asus U500 and the UX32VD.
>
>
>
> Shawn T Perry
> Red Mop Computing Services
> office: 720-319-7627
> cell: 303-881-2623
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:24 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson at thegeek.nu>
> wrote:
>>
>> Now, THAT's the sort of rig I'm talking about!
>>
>> http://eracks.com/products/Laptops/config?sku=GAMER
>>
>> I looked on Lenovo's site, and found nothing appropriate.
>>
>> --
>> David L. Willson
>> Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
>> RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
>> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
>>
>> This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > Just for the record -- it's not hopeless out there -- I've had a
>> > great
>> > business relationship with eRacks (www.eracks.com) out in Orange CA
>> > for
>> > several years now.  Good products, good people, great support, and
>> > 100%
>> > Linux-focused (servers, desktops, laptops).
>> >
>> > Just adding one more resource to the pool: I recommend them!...
>> >  Choice
>> > is good.  Results count.  Relationships are everything.
>> >
>> > best regards,
>> >    -- Lorin
>> >
>> > On 10/10/2012 10:16 AM, David L. Willson wrote:
>> > > I have used SLED (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop), and I liked it
>> > > fine. I
>> > > don't think it's backed by Novell any more, though.
>> > >
>> > > Do you know a reputable vendor that sells big, powerful laptops
>> > > with
>> > > SLED pre-installed?
>> > >
>> > > And to your final point, I find brand loyalism much, MUCH less
>> > > threatening in the land of Free (as in GPL) software, than in the
>> > > land
>> > > of free (as in beer and BSD) software or worst of all, in the land
>> > > of
>> > > proprietary software. I don't care if people are just crazy about
>> > > Ubuntu
>> > > or Red Hat or SUSE. I say God bless 'em and God speed. I do NOT
>> > > feel the
>> > > same way about people that are crazy about Windows, OSX, Oracle,
>> > > Netezza, and MapR. I have one simple reason: I hate vendor lock-in,
>> > > and
>> > > I've learned to recognize cages and chains.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > David L. Willson
>> > > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
>> > > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
>> > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
>> > >
>> > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > >     You should take a look at something that's backed by Novell and
>> > >     suse
>> > >     if you're serious about brand loyalty. Sled is prolly the only
>> > >     way
>> > >     forward with capitalism and Linux.
>> > >
>> > >     There's an excellent discussion here about the trials of
>> > >     universal
>> > >     compatibility and conversely brand loyalty. Thoughts?
>> > >
>> > >     On Wednesday, October 10, 2012, David L. Willson wrote:
>> > >
>> > >         Hardware vendors and softwarethe vendors are in business to
>> > >         make
>> > >         great products AND make a living. So, when you're spending,
>> > >         be
>> > >         aware that they're watching.
>> > >
>> > >         Id no longer makes products for Linux, because a whole
>> > >         bunch of
>> > >         people bought the Windows version of DOOM3 and downloaded
>> > >         the
>> > >         Linux binary for free, thereby obscuring their desire for a
>> > >         great game on Linux. Id can no longer justify the effort of
>> > >         creating the Linux port.
>> > >
>> > >         Fortunately, Valve is making their first foray into
>> > >         Linux-land,
>> > >         and hopefully, we'll have gotten smarter, enough to
>> > >         actually be
>> > >         careful about how our "dollar-votes" get registered.
>> > >
>> > >         So, I will continue to buy every Humble Bundle, attribute
>> > >         my
>> > >         purchase to Linux, and pay more than the average when I do.
>> > >         And
>> > >         I'll buy L4D2 on Steam on Linux, the day it gets released.
>> > >
>> > >         And, I will only buy Linux-based computers from now on,
>> > >         rather
>> > >         than OSX or Windows-based, so that I can be sure all my
>> > >         hardware
>> > >         will "just work", and my vendor will know that I want
>> > >         Linux.
>> > >
>> > >         All that to say this... I want to source a Linux
>> > >         workstation
>> > >         from a reputable vendor, so I can request it at work: Why
>> > >         is
>> > >         this so damned hard?
>> > >
>> > >         System 76 - Bonobo - gone
>> > >         Zareason - Verix - gone
>> > >         Dell - M6700 - Rumor appears to be unfounded
>> > >
>> > >         --
>> > >         David L. Willson
>> > >         Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
>> > >         RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
>> > >         Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
>> > >
>> > >         This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
>> > >
>> > >
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