[clue] OT(ish) - HVAC Control
Whiting, Gary
Gary.Whiting at echostar.com
Tue Sep 24 12:07:49 MDT 2013
Since someone else already mentioned it, I do have a Nest and really like it. It's expensive, I don't do any customizing, I just use it out of the box, but I do like it. The Nest service is remote, but it's also free. As it should be considering the purchase price.
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1. OT(ish) - HVAC Control (Quentin Hartman)
2. Re: OT(ish) - HVAC Control (Charles Burton)
3. Re: OT(ish) - HVAC Control (Chris Fedde)
4. Re: [lug] OT(ish) - HVAC Control (Quentin Hartman)
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:54:10 -0600
From: Quentin Hartman <qhartman at gmail.com>
Subject: [clue] OT(ish) - HVAC Control
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I need to get a new thermostat in my house, and I'd like something that is wifi and/or zigbee enabled so I can do some home automation-ish experimentation with it. One problem I've noticed though is that all the wifi ones I've looked at require you to sign up with a thirdparty that the thermostat talks to over the Internet to allow all the gee-whiz features.
I'm not thrilled with that from a security standpoint, and while the service is often currently free, all the TOS I've read specifically mention that they may charge for it in the future, rendering the extra features I paid for useless if I don't pony up some service fee.
SO
Does anyone have any suggestions for thermostats that are either a) wifi enabled and play nicely on a local network w/o needing an external service or b) are zigbee (or similar standard ad-hoc wireless network) enabled and play nicely with a Linux-based controller?
Thanks!
QH
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:52:12 -0600
From: Charles Burton <charles.d.burton at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [clue] OT(ish) - HVAC Control
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You could wire it into a raspberry pi or arduino yun then feed in temperature probe data. All of that is fairly cheap and relatively easy to build. As for off the shelf, I don't know what to tell you other than maybe a NEST.
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Quentin Hartman <qhartman at gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to get a new thermostat in my house, and I'd like something
> that is wifi and/or zigbee enabled so I can do some home
> automation-ish experimentation with it. One problem I've noticed
> though is that all the wifi ones I've looked at require you to sign up
> with a thirdparty that the thermostat talks to over the Internet to allow all the gee-whiz features.
> I'm not thrilled with that from a security standpoint, and while the
> service is often currently free, all the TOS I've read specifically
> mention that they may charge for it in the future, rendering the extra
> features I paid for useless if I don't pony up some service fee.
>
> SO
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for thermostats that are either a)
> wifi enabled and play nicely on a local network w/o needing an
> external service or b) are zigbee (or similar standard ad-hoc wireless
> network) enabled and play nicely with a Linux-based controller?
>
> Thanks!
>
> QH
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:55:26 -0600
From: Chris Fedde <chris at fedde.us>
Subject: Re: [clue] OT(ish) - HVAC Control
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It looks like there are a bunch of diyers out there doing it with X10 hardware and relays. Something similar could be done with a couple fixed temp thermostats and a relay board like one of these http://www.sainsmart.com/arduino-compatibles-1/relay/usb-relay/sainsmart-4-channel-12-v-usb-relay-board-module-controller-for-automation-robotics-1.html
Of course it all depends how far you want to go down the diy bunny trail.
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Quentin Hartman <qhartman at gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to get a new thermostat in my house, and I'd like something
> that is wifi and/or zigbee enabled so I can do some home
> automation-ish experimentation with it. One problem I've noticed
> though is that all the wifi ones I've looked at require you to sign up
> with a thirdparty that the thermostat talks to over the Internet to allow all the gee-whiz features.
> I'm not thrilled with that from a security standpoint, and while the
> service is often currently free, all the TOS I've read specifically
> mention that they may charge for it in the future, rendering the extra
> features I paid for useless if I don't pony up some service fee.
>
> SO
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for thermostats that are either a)
> wifi enabled and play nicely on a local network w/o needing an
> external service or b) are zigbee (or similar standard ad-hoc wireless
> network) enabled and play nicely with a Linux-based controller?
>
> Thanks!
>
> QH
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:10:07 -0600
From: Quentin Hartman <qhartman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [clue] [lug] OT(ish) - HVAC Control
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Perfect, this is just the kind of pointer I was hoping for. I'll check it out.
Q
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Landon Cox <landon at 360vl.com> wrote:
> Hi Quentin,
>
> Not sure if you're aware of it, but the 3M Filtrete WiFI thermostat
> has a RESTful interface, so you could do all the setting/control
> yourself. I've used the REST API and nearly everything is there that
> you can do from the touchscreen, so while they provide the webapp and
> way for the thermostat to register itself on their service, you
> wouldn't have to use it except for firmware updates.
>
> Landon
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