[clue] clue Digest, Vol 62, Issue 2

Mon Mar 7 15:10:42 MST 2016

Thanks for the response.

The reason I am doing it--and let me know if I am making some wrong
assumptions here--is that I only have 120 GB available on my SSD. When I
installed Debian on /dev/sda, I didn't set up an LVM, so in order to access
my 1 TB HDD (/dev/sdb) I have to manually mount /dev/sdb partitions in the
Debian fs or set up fstab to mount them.  I am assuming that when VBox
dynamically allocates memory for the Windows system, it will only be able
to write to /dev/sda, which will use up like half the drive. That's why I
wanted to force the Windows install on to /dev/sdb4.

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> From: Charles Burton <charles.d.burton at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [clue] Using a dedicated partition for VBox install
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> I've seen this done in the past with VirtualBox but more generally with ESX
> or KVM.  Can I ask why you're doing this?  I know it may not seem relevant,
> but if it's for performance reasons you might find that the VDI is faster
> because it caches writes in memory before commit allowing you better and
> more consistent numbers.
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Levi Darrell <levidarrell at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Has anybody had any luck using VBox to install a second system to a
> > dedicated partition on the host system, rather than a dynamically
> allocated
> > virtual hard disk? The reason I want to do this is that my computer has
> two
> > drives, a 120 GB SSD to which I have my host Debian system installed,
> and a
> > 1 TB HDD. As much as I dislike it, I occasionally have to use Windoze. I
> > have Debian installed on the SSD because it is much faster that way.
> > However, I don't want Windoze to use any space on the SSD because space
> > there is limited. I could install Windoze directly to the HDD, but I
> don't
> > want to do this because I already have an LFS system installed to the
> first
> > partition of that drive, and Windoze will only install to the first
> > partition of a drive. I'd have to move things around in order to get that
> > to work. Secondly, I don't want to have to boot in and out of my Debian
> > system every time I need to use Windoze for something. I want to be able
> to
> > use Windoze through VBoxHeadless in a shell console, and then be able to
> > switch between shell consoles from Debian to Windows.
> >
> > I installed VirtualBox version 5.0.16 from the VBox website, using the
> > .run file. I tried installing the .deb package first, but the
> installation
> > wouldn't complete because it wanted me to install packages that are no
> > longer in the repository. The .run installation completed successfully. I
> > successfully installed the extension pack. I was able to install both
> > Windows 10 and Windows 7 to a regular virtual hard disk on /dev/sda using
> > VBox. Everything is working fine.  However, I can't get VBox to install
> the
> > machine to /dev/sdb4, which is where I want to install the system.
> >
> > I tried using the features described in this documentation:
> > https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk. I tried issuing the
> > 'VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename </path/to/file.vmdk>
> > -rawdisk /dev/sdb -partitions 4' commands both with and without creating
> a
> > copy of the MBR and specifying the path to it (I don't think I should
> need
> > this, since I am doing a fresh install of Windoze). I have changed the
> > permissions to 660 for /dev/sdb, /dev/sdb4, and all of the directories
> that
> > would contain the VMDK file. I have changed the ownership of /dev/sdb and
> > /dev/sdb4, as well as all of the directories, to <myusername>. However,
> the
> > result of the command is sometimes 'Segmentation Fault' and sometimes
> > 'Invalid command: 'createrawvmdk'.' I am obviously issuing the command as
> > <myusername> and not root, which, as I understand it, is proper.
> >
> > I've searched in various forums and they all indicate this should work,
> > but all of the comments I have seen are pretty old and by users that are
> > using versions of VBox 4.0 or older. Is this feature no longer present in
> > VBox, and if not, is there some other way to accomplish this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Levi
> >
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> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 13:03:31 -0700
> From: Philipp Giddings <phil9x at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [clue] Using a dedicated partition for VBox install
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> Unplug the Debian drive, install windows directly to the other drive then
> plug back in the Debian and update grub to make windows bootable.
> At least that is how I did it on my laptop that has two drive only I had
> Linux on both.
> Hope this helps
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Levi Darrell <levidarrell at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Has anybody had any luck using VBox to install a second system to a
> > dedicated partition on the host system, rather than a dynamically
> allocated
> > virtual hard disk? The reason I want to do this is that my computer has
> two
> > drives, a 120 GB SSD to which I have my host Debian system installed,
> and a
> > 1 TB HDD. As much as I dislike it, I occasionally have to use Windoze. I
> > have Debian installed on the SSD because it is much faster that way.
> > However, I don't want Windoze to use any space on the SSD because space
> > there is limited. I could install Windoze directly to the HDD, but I
> don't
> > want to do this because I already have an LFS system installed to the
> first
> > partition of that drive, and Windoze will only install to the first
> > partition of a drive. I'd have to move things around in order to get that
> > to work. Secondly, I don't want to have to boot in and out of my Debian
> > system every time I need to use Windoze for something. I want to be able
> to
> > use Windoze through VBoxHeadless in a shell console, and then be able to
> > switch between shell consoles from Debian to Windows.
> >
> > I installed VirtualBox version 5.0.16 from the VBox website, using the
> > .run file. I tried installing the .deb package first, but the
> installation
> > wouldn't complete because it wanted me to install packages that are no
> > longer in the repository. The .run installation completed successfully. I
> > successfully installed the extension pack. I was able to install both
> > Windows 10 and Windows 7 to a regular virtual hard disk on /dev/sda using
> > VBox. Everything is working fine.  However, I can't get VBox to install
> the
> > machine to /dev/sdb4, which is where I want to install the system.
> >
> > I tried using the features described in this documentation:
> > https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk. I tried issuing the
> > 'VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename </path/to/file.vmdk>
> > -rawdisk /dev/sdb -partitions 4' commands both with and without creating
> a
> > copy of the MBR and specifying the path to it (I don't think I should
> need
> > this, since I am doing a fresh install of Windoze). I have changed the
> > permissions to 660 for /dev/sdb, /dev/sdb4, and all of the directories
> that
> > would contain the VMDK file. I have changed the ownership of /dev/sdb and
> > /dev/sdb4, as well as all of the directories, to <myusername>. However,
> the
> > result of the command is sometimes 'Segmentation Fault' and sometimes
> > 'Invalid command: 'createrawvmdk'.' I am obviously issuing the command as
> > <myusername> and not root, which, as I understand it, is proper.
> >
> > I've searched in various forums and they all indicate this should work,
> > but all of the comments I have seen are pretty old and by users that are
> > using versions of VBox 4.0 or older. Is this feature no longer present in
> > VBox, and if not, is there some other way to accomplish this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Levi
> >
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> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 13:30:05 -0700
> From: Larry Dunn <larry at toaboyt.com>
> Subject: Re: [clue] meeting this week
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> I'll be there, at least to add thanks to Griz.
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:28 AM, David L. Anselmi <anselmi at anselmi.us>
> wrote:
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> > Hey all, don't forget this is our last meeting. (Shoot, I started to
> > update the web site but I
> > haven't finished yet.)
> >
> > My week is imploding so I may not make it. But anyone who does, please
> > pass on our thanks to GRIZ
> > and his coworkers for hosting us so well for so long.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Dave
> >
> > Dennis J Perkins wrote:
> > > Does anyone want to talk about home automation at the meeting this
> > week?  We
> > > don't seem to have a speaker and I'm starting to look into the subject.
> > Maybe
> > > someone has automated their home or has some ideas.  I just ordered a
> > Razberry
> > > for my Raspberry Pi to let me talk to Z-Wave devices.  I'm going to
> test
> > > Domoticz with it.
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> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 22:01:34 +0000 (UTC)
> From: dennisjperkins at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [clue] meeting this week
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> Ok. Just so it's clear to people, I'm not doing a presentation about home
> automation. That would be nice, but I'm just getting started. I'm still
> puzzling things out and maybe others have some experience with this and can
> offer suggestions, or they are just curious and want to learn a bit about
> it.
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> From: "Larry Dunn" <larry at toaboyt.com>
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> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 1:30:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [clue] meeting this week
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> I'll be there, at least to add thanks to Griz.
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:28 AM, David L. Anselmi < anselmi at anselmi.us >
> wrote:
>
>
> Hey all, don't forget this is our last meeting. (Shoot, I started to
> update the web site but I
> haven't finished yet.)
>
> My week is imploding so I may not make it. But anyone who does, please
> pass on our thanks to GRIZ
> and his coworkers for hosting us so well for so long.
>
> Thanks!
> Dave
>
> Dennis J Perkins wrote:
> > Does anyone want to talk about home automation at the meeting this week?
> We
> > don't seem to have a speaker and I'm starting to look into the subject.
> Maybe
> > someone has automated their home or has some ideas. I just ordered a
> Razberry
> > for my Raspberry Pi to let me talk to Z-Wave devices. I'm going to test
> > Domoticz with it.
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