[CLUE-Talk] Fourth Amendment? Anyone? <-- U.S. down theTubes !

David Willson DLWillson at TheGeek.NU
Fri Jan 4 17:22:10 MST 2002


Thank you for the reminder, Jeff.  I will remain subscribed to
CLUE-tech.

On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 17:06, Jeffery Cann wrote:
> On Friday 04 January 2002 01:36 pm, you wrote:
> > No offense meant, but can we be done with this topic now?  I don't share
> > this political stance, and it's very irritating to watch the
> > me-too-fest.  I don't want to cause further disruption of the list by
> > saying "not me" and then having to defend my position for several
> > messages.  Can we stick to promoting Linux, rather than liberal
> > politics?
> 
> Dave,
> 
> As the person who started this thread, I have to disagree.
> 
> The CLUE-Talk page (http://clue.denver.co.us/mailman/listinfo/clue-talk) 
> states (and has not been changed since its inception):
> 
> "The CLUE talk list is open to any discussions of a non-technical nature that 
> may be of interest to LUG members. This includes, but is not limited to, 
> Linux advocacy, political activism, news bites, job postings and hardware 
> sales or exchanges."
> 
> So, to those folks who want the thread marked OT, I have to apologize, but my 
> post is certainly not OT, based on this description.
> 
> Now, on to my reasons for posting it:
> 
> The decision by the judge affects Linux and all folks who use computers 
> because our government is eroding our 4th amendment rights (to be secure in 
> our homes without undue searches and seizures), with respect to our specific 
> rights of the use of our personal computers.
> 
> Liberal politics aside, my feeling is too many of us are asleep at the wheel 
> with respect to our civil liberties, in particular our constantly eroding 
> DIGITAL civil liberties.
> 
> We have an obligation as members of a democracy to be informed of the 
> decisions which our elected leaders make on our behalf.  I am not happy with 
> this decision (although a judge is appointed, they are retained by election) 
> and wanted to share this unhappiness with those other activists who read 
> CLUE-Talk.
> 
> The first recourse when we are unhappy with a decision is to learn the facts 
> and then discuss them with others to ascertain their thoughts.  Then we can 
> rely those thoughts to other elected officials in hope that our voices will 
> be heard.
> 
> Promoting Linux is about promoting (and defending) freedom.  I understand if 
> you disagree with some of the posters comments.  Luckily, you are free to 
> ignore this thread or free to unsubscribe from clue-talk.
> 
> Take care,
> Jeff
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