[CLUE-Talk] Traitors, Cowards, Scoundrels, and Intelligent Dissenters

[Timothy C. Klein]

* G. Richard Raab (rraab at plusten.com) wrote:
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> On 2003 March 29 Saturday 07:36 am, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 21:02, Kevin Cullis wrote:
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> >
> > > > I am not convinced that we should be doing this.  Who appointed us
> > > > policemen of the world?  Is there enough of a threat to justify the
> > > > war?  What if we don't find the proof we're looking for?
> > >
> > > So, you'd wait for another 9/11?
> >
> > Are you ready to take on the entire Arab world, Kevin? Cause that's
> > right where your logic would take us. And if we wanted to prevent
> > another 9/11, why not start with Saudi Arabia, where the majority of the
> > 9/11 terrorists came from in the first place? Not Iraq.
> 
> I suggest that we look in our own back yard first.
> OK, CO, TX, MT
> All are hotbeds for dissent groups. Nazi, far Rightwing, fasicism is just as 
> much a threat as Al-Qaeda. Think KKK, NeoNazi, etc. All these thrive in the 
> C. Springs.
> Al-Qaeda simply got off one better then what happened in OK.
> 
> 
> > And, I should point out, that we've pretty much guaranteed that Islamic
> > terrorists will be stepping up their efforts to harm us thanks to our
> > actions.
> > And we're breeding a whole new crop of potential terrorists in
> > Iraq now as well.
> 
> Somehow, I do not believe that entirely. It will depend on how we act and what 
> we do. 
> If we go in, install a puppet government, take their oil, etc, then yeah, you 
> can bet on it that we will have a whole new group coming at us. Unfortunalty, 
> it is what I suspect will happen.
> 
> 
> 
> > In supposedly trying to prevent another 9/11, we've
> > probably guaranteed one.
>  Most likely.
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> 
> 
> > Let's remember - there have been NO PROVEN TIES between Iraq and Al
> > Qaeda. None, zip, nada, zero. There have been a number of claims, but
> > nothing proven.
> >
> 
> Somebody posted yesterday with the Brits saying that they have found proof of 
> cooperation between Sadaam and Al-Qaeda. I will be very curious to see if it 
> was true,  a misinterpetation of fact or a prisioner being tortured that 
> would say anything to get out of it. The fact that it came from the Brits 
> rather than an admin that is a known lier makes me sit up and pay attention.
> 

The fact that it is the Brits doesn't signify anything. The Brits have
a history of leaking misinformation to support a cause. They even have
an gov't branch for it: I/Ops. Do a google search on the recent Iraqi
attempt to purchase yellow cake uranium from Nigeria. It was total bunk,
an obvious forged document. Colin Powell used it in his address to the
UN, Bush mentioned it in the State of the Union address. And it was an
easily verified fake. Guess who gave it to us? The Brits.

Tim
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