[clue-talk] surveillance cameras

David Rudder david.rudder at reliableresponse.net
Fri Sep 21 13:08:15 MDT 2007


I have a customer that makes these sorts of video surveillance systems.
They sell almost exclusively to businesses in New Jersey, but I think
their rationale pertains to a lot of situations.

Police departments in large cities have stopped responding to automated
alarms and telephone tips.  They just get too many false alarms.  Now
they require visual confirmation from a person or...a video camera.
The cameras don't increase the rate of arrests.  They decrease the rate
of false alarms.

There are a number of cameras on the streets outside my office (Colfax
and Grant).  I believe these are so that the police can visually confirm
crimes in progress.  Since the cameras have gone up, I have seen far
more arrests on the street.  Whether that's because the cameras are
working, or people have started doing more crime, or I'm just noticing
them more, I don't know.  But, I do believe the police responded to
crime reports on Colfax with a "been there, done that" attitude.

-Dave

dennisjperkins at comcast.net wrote:
> There was an article yesterday saying that the surveillance cameras in England have not reduced crime.  No surprise there.
>
> I'm guessing that the cameras are supposed to catch people running red lights.  Maybe they can identify the car, but can they identify the driver reliably?  It's one thing to be handed a ticket by an officer, but another to be identified by a camera.  Can it identify people who look very similar?  How about identical twins?  
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: rex evans <rexfordevans at yahoo.com>
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>> I have noticed increasing use of cameras and
>> I think their ability to see details will also
>> increase.
>>
>> Surveillance at work place started with a
>> few cameras in critical areas, for example
>> to provide external view entry/exits, loading dock.
>>
>> More cameras in parking lots for security from
>> muggers,
>> rapists, kidnappers. 
>>
>> Some personal items got stolen at work, so that was
>> an excuse to put cameras in all hallways.
>>
>> At one telephone company, I noticed an audible click
>> when I neared one of the exits. It was some sort of
>> alert Sensor, that could only be heard on a quiet day.
>> Of course there were cameras at every exit also.
>>
>> In this same company, I became friends with a security
>> guard. 
>> His previous job was in the company's "listening
>> room";
>> they could and did monitor phone lines; their
>> favorites
>> were conference room phones. 
>>
>> In one cubical, they installed a clock with hidden 
>> camera, because they had a computer (server) in the
>> cubical. 
>>
>> In future, insurance companies may require that each
>> building must have surveillance of all internal areas
>> and parking lots.
>>
>> I just heard Peter Boyles on radio say that Denver
>> Police are video recording at the entrance to 
>> motorcycle events. These are mainstream events, not
>> some Hell's Angels gatherings.
>>  
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