[clue-talk] Obama, McCain, and the American flag

[Richard Knechtel]

  Obama is going to win unfortunately, but if McCain won we would be in 
trouble too.... I have seen several shows where Rebuplican "stratigists" 
have acknowledged Obama is going to win, but not only that Democrats are 
going to make a "sweep, several senate and house seats will be gained by 
the Democrats." Republicans at the top level have already acknowledged 
defeat and are planning for regrouping for 2012.

It is high time we start looking for third parties to challenge the 
Republican and Democrat mafioso!


Political Renegades: Gov. Ventura and Willie Nelson challenge two-party 
stranglehold
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5599

""If we break the trend of electing Democrats and Republicans, and start 
electing independents, we will get out of the problem we're in," Ventura 
told News 8 Austin, urging people to vote their 'heart' and 'conscience' 
outside The Backyard, where Willie Nelson performed at the venue's final 
event."


The truth is BOTH McCain and Obama are in the pocket of the globalists - 
their pupets.


"A Second 9/11": An Integral Part of US Military Doctrine
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5686

"For several years now, senior officials of the Bush administration 
including the President and the Vice President have intimated, in no 
certain terms, that there will be "a Second 9/11".

Quotations from presidential speeches and official documents abound. 
America is threatened:"

"While "conspiracy theorists" have been accused of cogitating regarding the 
possibility of a Second 9/11, most of the insinuations emanate from 
official US sources including the White House, the Pentagon and Homeland 
Security.

The fact that a "massive casualty producing events" could be used as part 
of a US foreign policy agenda is diabolical. The official statements are 
grotesque"

"Mainstream Media Report: "The Need" for a Second 9/11

While the Washington Post leaked the substance of the Pentagon's classified 
documents pertaining to the "opportunity" of a Second 9/11, the issue has 
not been the object of mainstream commentary or analysis.

It is worth noting, however, that in an August 2007 Fox News interview, "A 
Second 9/11" was heralded as a means to create awareness and unite 
Americans against the enemy.

Broadcast on Fox News, Columnist Stu Bykofsky claimed that America "needs" 
a new 9/11 to unite the American people, because they have "forgotten" who 
the enemy is. He also claimed that "there will be another 9/11", and Fox 
New Anchorman John Gibson concurred. Civilian casualties would contribute 
to uniting the country and creating awareness:

     "it's going to take a lot of dead people to wake America up" said John 
Gibson."


What Will Obama's "International Crisis" Be?
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5465

Joe Biden's "guarantee" that an "international crisis" will unfold shortly 
after President Obama takes office conjures up several different 
possibilities, but it seems the likely outcome will revolve around an 
announcement that Iran has developed a nuclear bomb, prompting a potential 
military attack.

"It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they 
did John Kennedy," Biden told an audience in Seattle this past weekend.

"Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I 
said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, 
to test the mettle of this guy."

The assured tone with which Biden delivered his forecast was staggeringly 
convincing, and left the observer in no doubt that there will be a major 
world crisis shortly after Obama takes office. "Mark my words, mark my 
words," Biden stressed, adding that "tough" and "unpopular" foreign policy 
decisions will have to be made.

"I promise you it will occur," Biden added, "As a student of history and 
having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it is going to happen."

Biden's use of the word "generated" is even more startling. One of the 
dictionary definitions we find for the word "generated" is "to bring into 
existence; cause to be; produce," which begs the question, will this be 
another staged and manufactured crisis like the 9/11 attacks, which 
occurred less than 8 months after Bush took office?


Biden's Admonition: Plebs to Suffer if Obama is Elected
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5417


At 05:34 AM 11/2/2008, you wrote:

>On Nov 2, 2008, at 3:25 AM, Brian Gibson wrote:
>
>>>I for one have no tolerance for people who bomb other people in
>>>their own country.  That's Mr. Ayers.
>>
>>Yeah, damn those American Revolutionaries.
>
>
>That was the cessation of an entire continent from their oppressive
>government, is that what you're saying Mr. Ayers was attempting to
>accomplish in the 60's and 70's here?  Give me a break.
>
>Mr. Ayers bombed American citizens, and is unrepentant of that action
>to this day.
>
>
>>>Voting in this country is a right this gun-totin' right of center
>>suburbanite would pick up a gun and
>>>fight for, even if I knew everyone
>>I was fighting for would vote for a Liberal.
>>
>>Funny how violence can be justified as long as you're on the "right"
>>side of the issue.
>
>
>This is the standard hypothetical that assumes that someone tyrannical
>is taking away our right to freedom of speech.  Are you saying losing
>that particular freedom would be not worth having violence over?
>
>Doesn't matter, there aren't any tyrants here doing that, that I've
>seen.  You just wanted to use my Patriotism as a way to say I'm
>somehow violent, to make me look like I contradicted myself -- which
>is silly and untrue.  I am not shooting anyone, but Mr. Ayers has
>admittedly killed people.  Hello?
>
>
>>Not that I condone his past actions, but the fact that he's reformed
>>and become a productive member of society doesn't mean anything now
>>does it?
>
>
>Reformed?  In a 2005 interview he said, "I wish I had bombed more."
>Sounds quite reformed.  Such a shining example of humanity, I can just
>barely
>
>
>>If you commit a crime, somehow there is no redemption or
>>forgiveness, even after you pay your debt to society?
>>(Unfortunately Ayers got off on a technicality.)  Suddenly now you
>>are suspect (perhaps even guilty) for the associations you have?
>>Give me a break.  Tell me I'm wrong, but I recall a little
>>ammendment giving people the right to peaceably assemble.  Besides
>>McCain has his fair share of questionable associations, as I'm sure
>>a lot of other people do as well.  It's just that its currently hip
>>to hate on the scary terrorist man.  Guess we're all seeing brown
>>where we once saw red.
>
>
>I'm talking about the real man Ayers is, not some boogie-man "brown
>guy".  Ayers is a white terrorist, who applauded the assassination of
>a Robert Kennedy in his own writing and words by saluting Sirhan
>Sirhan, and Obama has a long-term relationship with him.
>
>You try to make my innocent statement that I'd defend your right to
>free speech with a firearm as something evil, while you claim a man
>who bombed people in this country and really killed them, is worthy of
>"redemption or foregiveness"?   I'm sure the parents of the people he
>killed haven't forgiven his sick and twisted act.
>
>Obama also gave a personal book endorsement of writings by Ayers.
>Amazing.  Really amazing.
>
>You're not going to get any apologies out of me for despising Ayers
>and questioning why Obama would even associate with him in any way.
>
>Think Ayer's writings are bad?  Read Obama's wife's Master's thesis.
>
>--
>Nate Duehr
>nate at natetech.com
>
>
>
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