[clue-talk] The stimulus bill

[Nate Duehr]

Blah blah blah.  The question was simple... why should we take Federal  
funds from Pork-a-Palooza '09, to fix the road, when you haven't  
called your representative and offered to take a tax hike for I-70 in  
past years?

Suddenly priorities change when the word "Free" is thrown around and  
people think they MUST take the money or lose it.  Guess what?   
There's another option... don't spend it at the Federal level in the  
first place, and give it back.

Same thing happens with Healthcare.

The books Feakonomics and Predictably Irrational explain the "Free"  
phenomenon in the human brain pretty well.

Think we here can't figure out how to build or maintain a road without  
someone in Washington D.C. handing out the checks?  Really?

Nate

On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:31 PM, Brian Gibson wrote:

> I'm more than willing to put in my fair share as a citizen of this  
> state who uses highways (including I-70), as well as a citizen of  
> this country who benefits from the interstate commerce that passes  
> along the route.  However, I don't plan on footing the entire bill  
> myself, unless the state is willing to cede ownership.  If such an  
> expansion happens, I expect state and federal taxes to be used,  
> perhaps supplemented by private contributions, which is how most  
> major infrastructure projects get done.  Another option would be to  
> charge a toll (a use tax) which has been proposed to help raise the  
> necessary capital.  Make those who use it the most take the brunt of  
> the cost.  But tolls have a habit of lingering long after their  
> original intent, and tolls tend to ratchet upwards.  E-470 just went  
> up $0.25, which I believe is to pay for the video toll system  
> they're putting in place which will cost less to run than the manned  
> booths.  What I don't understand is
> if the system saves money, why do the drivers have to pay more?
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Nate Duehr <nate at natetech.com>
> To: CLUE talk <clue-talk at cluedenver.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:34:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [clue-talk] The stimulus bill
>
> p.s. On this one.  You're offering to send any State refund you're  
> entitled
> to this year directly to CDOT, if I'm not mistaken then, right?
>
> Actions speak louder than words.  Want I-70 widened, tell your
> representatives, and keep telling them, and be willing to PAY for  
> it, no
> matter the cost.
>
> Nate
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: clue-talk-bounces at cluedenver.org
> [mailto:clue-talk-bounces at cluedenver.org] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:28 PM
> To: 'CLUE talk'
> Subject: RE: [clue-talk] The stimulus bill
>
> I'm looking forward to additional funds for highway/bridge repairs and
> perhaps the widening of I-70 may actually start.
>
> ----
>
> If you wanted those things, why didn't you press your State  
> Legislature for
> them before the Stimulus "free money for all" bill arrived on the  
> scene?
> Did you vote out those who didn't take care of our infrastructure,  
> or did
> you get side-tracked into ideological issues and Party politics?
>
> Nate
>
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