[CLUE-Tech] Fwd: voluntary blackout [thought this was a neat idea]

Thu May 24 12:48:07 MDT 2001

I think it's very appropriate inasmuch as computers collectively
consume great amounts of energy.

"David L. Willson" wrote:

>  The politics, the stance, the advantages and disadvantages of
> each side of this discussion... are entirely irrelevant.This
> list is not for political discussions; it's for Linux, which
> is arguably politics and/or religion of it's own.
> Nonetheless, real politics and real religion, inasmuch an
> "other" side is defined and condemned, is entirely
> inappropriate to this forum, until George W. starts actively
> promoting Linux, or Linus Torvalds starts discussing his
> faith, or lack thereof, and how it affects product design, or
> something like that there...  Politics and religion are NOT
> relevant to this list.Now, unless you want a discussion of my
> faith in your inbox, please keep the discussion of your
> politics out of mine.  And no, I don't particularly care what
> the stance is.  Keep the politics off the Linux-list.I'll even
> go so far as to say, "Post what you like, but start the
> subject-line with 'OT:'" so the rest of us know that you're
> off on some friggin' tangent...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: clue-tech-admin at clue.denver.co.us
> [mailto:clue-tech-admin at clue.denver.co.us]On Behalf Of John
> Rundle
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:48 AM
> To: clue-tech at clue.denver.co.us
> Subject: RE: [CLUE-Tech] Fwd: voluntary blackout [thought this
> was a neat idea]
>
>
> Whoa, somebody needs to relax.  While I agree that this post
> was not necessarily appropriate for this mailing list, it is
> not going to upset me seeing it here.  As far as taking things
> for granted, that is exactly what we do with everything.  We
> take our technology for granted, but we also take our
> environment for granted.  I believe its a great idea for
> everybody to take 3 hours out of  their day to experience what
> its like to live without electricity, especially if it allows
> them to see that there are other things that can be just as
> fulfilling as watching tv or surfing the net.  Just because
> our economy depends on energy doesn't mean we shouldn't seek
> to conserve it, and find alternative sources of it.
>
>
> John Rundle
> Software Engineer
> Reason, Inc.
> 720-747-8697
> jrundle at reasoninc.com
> www.reasoninc.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Ockers [mailto:ockers at ockers.net]
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:50 AM
> To: clue-tech at clue.denver.co.us
> Subject: Re: [CLUE-Tech] Fwd: voluntary blackout [thought this
> was a
> neat idea]
>
> OK, this rubbed me the wrong way.  Why is this even on the
> clue-tech
> mailing list?
>
> <FLAME>
>
> This is inappropriate material for the clue-tech mailing list,
> and
> furthermore is indicative of people who have not fully though
> through
> the matter of how our economy depends on the availability of
> energy,
> and how the federal government cannot make you use less energy
> any
> more than they can force you to eat healthy food, exercise, or
> stay
> out of debt.
>
> I invite you to move to a third-world country where there are
> fewer
> evil companies and corporations who exploit the Earth's
> resources.
> And while you are going you should travel there using only
> home-made
> and human-powered transportation.  Don't pack your bags in any
>
> suitcases made of metal or synthetic materials - use a burlap
> bag
> or something.
>
> Good luck getting clean water, good healthcare, food, and so
> forth
> in your new country.
>
> </FLAME>
>
> Or perhaps were you taking your nice home, clean water,
> car(s),
> roads, healthcare, and so forth for granted, even though the
> technology and materials are brought to you by corporations
> who
> exploit and "misuse" natural resources?  And the fact that
> your
> home is heated in the winter and perhaps cooled in the summer?
>
> Make sure you are not taking a bunch of stuff for granted
> before
> you make political statements of this nature in the future.
>
> > > > >This could be fun if enough people participate!
> > > > >
> > > > > > >ROLL YOUR OWN BLACK OUT
> > > > > > >THE FIRST DAY OF SUMMER
> > > > > > JUNE 21, 2001 THURS EVE,
> > > > > > 7 - 10 pm worldwide, all time zones
> > > > > >---------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >In protest of George W. Bush's energy policies and
> lack of
> > > > > >emphasis on efficiency, conservation and alternative
> fuels,
> > > > > >there will be a voluntary rolling blackout on the
> first day of
> > > > > >Summer, June 21 at 7 pm - 10 pm in any time zone
> > > > > >(this will roll it across the planet).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >It's a simple protest and a symbolic act. Turn out
> your lights
> > > > > >from 7 pm - 10 pm (your local time) on June 21.
> Unplug
> > > > > >whatever you can unplug in your house. Light a candle
> for
> > > > > >the Sun, kiss, make love, play games, tell ghost
> stories,
> > > > > >do something instead of watching television,
> > > > > >have fun in the dark.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Forward this email as widely as possible, to your
> government
> > > > > >representatives and environmental contacts. Let them
> know
> > > > > >we want global education, participation and funding
> in
> > > > > >conservation, efficiency and alternative energy
> efforts --
> > > > > >and an end to over exploitation and misuse of the
> Earth's
> > > > > >resources.> >
> > > > > >*********
> > >
>
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