[CLUE-Tech] HP laptop

Lawrence Layman llayman at qwest.com
Wed Jan 16 14:47:10 MST 2002


Kevin-
        Faulty analogy. The price is not being lowered.
        And yes, I would put in my own engine. But that's why I play with Linux.

Regards, Lawrence Layman

Kevin Cullis wrote:

> Ed,
>
> And the REALLY bad part is that the salesperson on the phone told me
> that I had to have an OS on it for "Quality Assurance" to ensure that it
> works before it goes out the door. Sheeesh.....
>
> However, there is one issue that we may not have thought of: would you
> by a brand new car without an engine?  Just to put your own in?
> Essentials are required, accessories can be left off and thus lower the
> price.  That may be their comeback to our arguement.
>
> Kevin
>
> Ed Hill wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 12:42, Kevin Cullis wrote:
> > > The sad part is that I called IBM about a laptop a while back and
> > > computers with Windows2K and above you CAN NOT get a refund on the OS
> > > like you could with NT/98/etc, so you're out of luck getting a money to
> > > buy Linux products. The key issue is that we're getting to the point
> > > that we'll have to "build our own" in order NOT to get a Windows OS.
> > > Talk about a subscription model .....
> >
> > Yes, its awful.  My new Thinkpad had the same terms.  Its a clear abuse
> > of monopoly power.
> >
> > So if you want to do something *constructive* about this increasingly
> > rotten situation, please read:
> >
> >   http://www.kegel.com/remedy/
> >
> > and then write your own letter to Renata B. Hesse which will then be
> > published in the Federal Register.  This is one of the best ways that we
> > can end these practices.
> >
> > And please feel free to borrow from my letter:
> >
> >   http://www.eh3.com/fed_reg_letter.pdf
> >   http://www.eh3.com/fed_reg_letter.tex
> >
> > if you want.
> >
> > Ed
> >
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