[CLUE-Tech] Re: was pine and pico, now: Fedora

[David L. Willson]

MP3's: Or install the latest binary RPM from www.xmms.org, which will
require ALSA, which you can get from the links in this nice article
http://foolish.digitalinc.info/docs/alsa/

up2date/yum/apt: Or edit your configuration file to use a less busy
mirror.  See http://www.xades.com/proj/fedora_apt.html

NEW flash-player: Use the RPM from
http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/macromedia/site_ucsc.html, which will require
libstdc++, which you can get with 'yum install compat-libstdc++' or
'up2date --install compat-libstdc++'

On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 08:44, black at galaxy.silvren.com wrote:
> Slight change of subject here...
> 
> I am in the throes of moving stuff from an old Mandrake box to Fedora.
> Here's a few observations I had.
> 
> 1. xmms doesn't support mp3's due to licensing worries, if you want that
> then uninstall the rpm and compile from source.
> 
> 2. the update support is ok (FREE!!!), and fails grabbing packages a lot.
> If you get a message about a packages signature not matching, do NOT
> continue, start over. If you continue it tries to install the package
> anyway (which obviously must fail, only half the rpm is there) however it
> will flag it as a successful update. Anyone else seen this?
> 
> 3. tcl.h is NOWHERE in any of the rpm's, even though tcl8.3 is. I went
> through each cd with "ls /mnt/cdrom/Fedora/RPMs | xargs rpm -qlp >>
> ~/discfiles.txt" and grepped the whole list for it. I wonder how much
> other include file stuff is missing. Wonder why they didn't install
> tcl8.4, its been out for ages.
> 
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Greg Knaddison wrote:
> 
> > I don't know about licensing in the future and such, but I think that you'll be
> > very very happy when you type into your shell:
> >
> > $ nano
> >
> > For pine I have no recommendation.  It was also dropped due to security concerns
> > and "long term maintenance concerns" or something like that.  I did read that
> > there is a format file (or something like that) for mutt which makes mutt act
> > like pine.  Maybe that's your Nirvana.  Mutt seems like the most popular
> > non-pine text based email client.
> >
> > Here's a pretty exhaustive though slightly dated review:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=UNIX+email+software+survey+faq+%222+of+3%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1999&as_maxd=5&as_maxm=2&as_maxy=2004&selm=mailfaq.2_1006754401%40ferret.ocunix.on.ca&rnum=1
> >
> > If your reader screws up that URL do a google groups search for
> > UNIX email software survey faq "2 of 3"
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > Quoting Mike Staver <staver at fimble.com>:
> >
> > > I'm trying to use Fedora Core 1 today... and I'm very disappointed to
> > > see that Pine was dropped from the release due to some kind of license
> > > dispute. (I swear, if all the liceneses would just get along, linux
> > > would be sooo much better!) Anyhoo, I now would like to find a
> > > replacement for both command line email and my text editor.  Pico was
> > > great - I learned it 11 years ago on Solaris, and I never looked back.
> > > I know of emacs and vi, but vi seems hard to use for me.  Without
> > > starting a flame war, can someone please let me know which email client
> > > and text editors you think are the best... and most likely to not get
> > > dropped from a future Red Hat / Fedora release?  Thanks.
> > > --
> > >
> > >                                  -Mike Staver
> > >                                   staver at fimble.com
> > >                                   mstaver at globaltaxnetwork.com
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