[clue-tech] upstart

Kevin Fenzi kevin at scrye.com
Mon Sep 8 19:34:57 MDT 2008


On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:43:17 -0600
nate at natetech.com (Nate Duehr) wrote:

> Kevin Fenzi wrote:

> > Yeah, it will be. Although they have discovered some fundamental
> > problems with the way it was designed and will be re-writing a
> > bunch of it in the coming months. ;) 
> > 
> >> I noticed this when I upgraded to F9.  I'm trying to figure out why
> >> they changed what wasn't broken. 
> > 
> > SysVinit isn't maintained anymore. It has no upstream aside from
> > RedHat/Fedora, and no one there wanted to keep patching it with more
> > and more band-aids. ;) 
> 
> One could argue either side here... Sun replaced their startup in Sol
> 10 also, looking for "better ways" to do startup too.

Either side of what? Shipping something thats unmaintained, or
switching to something new?

> Linux is just mimicking that, in my opinion.  Me too, me too!
> 
> Whether or not either fancy new startup system really solves as many 
> problems as they create, is yet to be seen.

Indeed. 

> We're stuck with both now, so it'll be fun to watch.
> 
> There were certainly higher priority things for Linux to work on,
> that got ignored, though.   That's also fairly typical.
> 
> "Let's rework the startup system."
> 
> "But no one's having any problems starting things up... the problems
> our customer have are x, y and z."
> 
> "Yeah, but this is more fun to fix than those!"  (Or insert whatever 
> other excuse here.)

You can't force volunteers to work on things you think are more
important. If they are that important to you, why don't you hire some
developers and have them work on those items?
 
> Nate

kevin
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