[clue-tech] yum / apt update minimum age
David L. Anselmi
anselmi at anselmi.us
Sat Aug 29 20:37:18 MDT 2009
David L. Willson wrote:
>>> Here's my objective: I want to deploy every package that's been
>>> available and newest for a week. My hope is that by doing so, I
>>> will avoid those rare times that a bugged patch gets uploaded, breaks
>>> everything, and then a new, good patch goes up the next day.
>
> I do, actually. Sometime last year, I spent most of a day
> troubleshooting an inaccessible Ubuntu Samba server. I finally did a
> full update on the system, even though it had ~just~ been updated,
> with a patch for Samba even. Lo, there was a new patch for Samba and
> after applying it, everything began to work again. I don't know for
> ~sure~ that the prior patch was bugged, but I suppose it was. I've
> seen lots of double-patches go by, though. A patch one day, then
> another patch the next. It seems reasonable to wait a day or three
> on a patch being newest before deploying it.
Seems like a good reason not to use Ubuntu, if they're doing that to a
public release. Debian's unstable works just like that. But there's a
10 day wait to go into testing so I really doubt that testing and stable
see double-patches.
Here's an example that's much more common for me (Debian unstable, so
I'm *not* asking avoid double-patches).
I tried to use debmirror yesterday to mirror hardy (Ubuntu). The same
command line I've always used failed with an odd message. I looked at
the changelog--they "fixed" something related to suite/codename
symlinks, whatever those are. But that bug was already fixed: it
prevented mirroring Debian experimental too. So I did another upgrade
and got a different, odd error.
So I filed a bug report. It's fixed today (the maintainer is a few
timezones ahead of me, which didn't hurt).
My experience is that by the time I find a bug it's either a) fixed
because someone else found it first, or b) a new bug because I'm doing
something a little different than "average".
Dave
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