[clue] raytheon linux-jobs

Wed Feb 19 15:15:47 MST 2014

Whoh, guys, I'm not going to pretend we're all sunshine and daisies,  but
I'm also not going to air our dirty laundry.   1)  I have a professional
obligation to Raytheon, and 2) I consider both the departing staffers to be
friends.  I will say that no one's been forced out, they both made their
choices for personal and professional reasons of their own choosing, and
that's really all I'm going to comment on the subject.  You're welcome to
pursue the reqs if interested, and I'm willing to answer professional
questions about the jobs at my email address.   (Mostly because I don't
want to spam the mailing list, my manager already knows I shared the req
numbers with my linux user group.)

Mike Bean

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Mark G. Harvey <markgharvey at yahoo.com>wrote:

>
> My concern is with management doing something that the troops view as not
> good & driving them away.  Especially when two experts depart at the same
> time.
>
> I'd say great for the two heavy hitters moving upward & onward.  We all
> should have such upward mobility.
>
> 2 points on perception; using myself & my wife as examples
>
> Her:  My wife has worked for a Fortune 50 company for 18+ years.  Most of
> it from home with occasional travel.  Very stable.  She's working her way
> up the corporate ladder.  It works for her.
>
> Me:  Been in contracting for the better part of 20 years, mostly as a
> Systems Admin / Eng.  Had my own S-corp for 10+ years.  Contracting by its
> very nature is up / down with the economy & customer budgets.  I'm grateful
> if a project goes for a full year.  Customer budgets rule.
>
> Unfortunately, some recruiters view the up & down as instability, which
> shows me they don't understand the nature of business.  They take the "HR"
> view.  I started my business to get around this hurdle & reach the business
> decision maker.  Sometimes I succeed; sometimes not.  That's life.  No one
> owes me a living.
>
> Back in 1998, I worked for Raytheon over at Centre Tech.   Raytheon
> acquired that Hughes facility & started layoffs.  So after 5 months, I was
> hunting for work again.  I'd consider working there again.  But the commute
> from Lakewood would be brutal!
>
>
>   On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 5:32 PM, Roy <rjohnston at denverinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Someone leaving to better themselves, or move up, or out, or off, has
> become the normal method of advancement.
>  I don't think anyone stays with the same employer for 30 years any
> longer, so when I'm hiring, as long as I don't see someone jumping every
> year or two, I don't think much of it.  And when I'm looking - I find that
> being professional is more important than expecting a perfect environment
> from everyone else.  That being said, a friend of mine recently retired
> from Raytheon - and it's a place I'd work.
>
>
>
> On February 18, 2014 at 11:41 AM Quentin Hartman <qhartman at gmail.com>
> quoth :
>
>  This was the same thing I was wondering
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Mark G. Harvey <markgharvey at yahoo.com>pondered :
>
>    Mike,
> The real question for me is why are these two Linux heavy hitters
> departing Raytheon?  Better offers elsewhere?  Or is there something so
> unpleasant in their current positions that they don't want to deal with it
> any longer?  Management issues?  Change in technology direction?
>
> Thanks for any insight.
>
>
>
>    On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:04 AM, Mike Bean <beandaemon at gmail.com>
> wrote :
>
> We're losing two of our senior guys where I work.  The reqs aren't on
> jobs.raytheon.com yet, but my boss is trying to make that happen, and
> she's thinking they'll go public in a few days.  She's told me it's fine to
> share with clue
>  (the req numbers)
>
> 49862BR
> 50015BR
>
>  Caveat, these were some pretty big fish leaving our pond, so they'll
> expect applicants to have a substantial amount of experience.   Although I
> have no idea what it pays.  We're a mostly red-hat/VMware/AIX shop.
> Although there's ALLOT of different kinds of topics around.   There's some
> travel, but it's not usually more then 2-3 times a year.
>  Just to reiterate, the jobs aren't public yet; but if we have cluebies
> who are interested, I'd suggest watching jobs.raytheon.com for those req
> numbers probably no later then the end of the week.  For specific
> questions, I'd probably suggest emailing me so we don't spam the list.
>  Mike Bean
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