[CLUE-Admin] FW: New Real Estate E-Newsletter

[El Presidente de CLUE]

On Friday 14 March 2003 11:43 am, David Anselmi wrote:
>  For the rest of the admins, this does not seem to me to be an issue for 
> us.  Rick took addresses out of his personal address book and sent a 
> personal message to them.  

Dave,

I disagree.  It is certainly an admin issue.  Because Rick said in his 
previous email that:

"...though I did use some of the address that I have collected over the last 
year or two from CLUE mailings to make up the list."

Based on Crawford's comments and this message which I received today from the 
web site contact form, I think it's clear Rick used a list of folks he does 
not know personally, and thus does not qualify under the 'he used his 
personal address book' argument:

----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
Subject: CLUE Web Site Contact Form - Abuse of CLUE name / Spam (Fri Mar 14 
2003 09:00 am)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:00:08 -0700
From: *********************
To: president at clue.denver.co.us

Jeff,

I received an e-mail from rick.helmich at coldwellbanker.com
 <rick.helmich at coldwellbanker.com> today I consider spam.  He used his
 association with CLUE to send me an advertisement for Real Estate
 services... the text of the message is copied below.

I have no association with Rick that I'm aware of, and I have never even been
 to a CLUE meeting.  I have been on and off the mailing list for years.

How he got my address and then why he used CLUE as his "in" with me I have no
 idea.

Just letting you know...
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People signed up for the CLUE lists have no reason to believe it is acceptable 
or expected that they will receive any unsolicited offers from other members.   
It's the job of the admins to enforce this implicit rule.  I am happy to add 
explicit notification to the email lists to make this point clear if 
necessary.

There is a reason our pipermail archives do not display user's emails on the 
CLUE web site, and this is the reason -- so they are not 'collected' by 
anyone, including robots and members on the list. 

Rick just made an error in judgement and I think we have made our point.  I 
think the issue is closed.

Thanks for everyone's input and I vote for Zonker's idea - Rick buys the beer 
next month!

No hard feelings Rick.  I hope you understand my point of view as CLUE 
President and the general concensus against unsolicited / opt-in / spam 
email.  We don't allow it.

Again, good luck with your new career.  I'll take a pint of Guiness next 
month!

Jeff
-- 
Colorado Linux Users and Enthusiasts (CLUE)
http://cluedenver.org/
Jeffery Cann, President