[clue-admin] ZNZ relegated to the dustbin of trashed ideas

[YES NOPE9]

> 
> On Dec 25, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Jed S. Baer wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:58:59 -0700
> YES NOPE9 wrote:
> 
>> Is there an "official" list of who is running the group ?  I can only
>> guess who is "running" the group.
> 
> http://cluedenver.org/display.php?node=contacts
> and Crawford, as Sysadmin.
> 
> As to the rest, well, please calm down and get a grip. You're bitching
> about no discussion, but you didn't respond to my posts suggesting we
> need to prioritize our actions. You didn't respond to my post asking that
> proposals for hosting be tied to our requirements. You accuse us of being
> totalitarian dictators because we haven't instantly jumped into action on
> the suggestion of migrating to some cloud-based service with no
> documentation of how it meets our needs. And now you're pissed off
> because the people who have been doing the actual work of keeping our
> hosting running have made a decision, which we did because we've run out
> of time, this time around, for planning a migration. Would you have
> preferred that we just didn't pay the bills and let the CLUE hosting go
> away? Do you think that would be in the best interests of CLUE? I don't.

You distorted and exaggerated what I have said.  This makes it difficult to
have a rational discussion.  I never called you totalitarian dictators.
I never suggested abruptly dropping the existing hosting.  After seeing
the way you construct your arguments , I will make an even greater effort
to remain factual.  I don't observe XMAS.  I do promote individual 
liberty.  Why did the hosting turn into a sort of chinese fire drill ?
This situation is continuing to be very educational for me.  You do have
exceptional wordsmithing skills.

> In point of fact, we're not dictators. We're not Czars. We weren't
> appointed by Obama. We volunteered to take on responsibility on behalf of
> CLUE. In the past, the vast majority of decisions about how CLUE operates
> have been made by concensus of the CLUE admins, and in fact that's how
> this one was made as well. That's our job. Which I'm not saying in an
> exclusionary way, but as a recognition of our responsibilities.
> 
> I have another proposal. Today is Christmas day. Let's all ignore the
> admin list for the rest of the weekend. Take at least a couple days off.
> Hey, maybe just let things be until January. Nothing's going to break
> between now and then, and I could certainly stand some time not worrying
> about CLUE.
> 


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