[clue-tech] Satellite RF or decoded TV signal redistribution in a MURB

Jim Ockers ockers at ockers.net
Wed Oct 6 11:49:47 MDT 2010


Hi Gus,

Good questions.

1. The only place the dish could conceivably go outside is on a very 
small balcony.  It would probably have to be disguised as a patio chair 
or natural gas barbecue.

2.  That is a good idea.  I will try to ask around.

3. We have electrical contractors who could install additional wiring 
for a fee.  But generally it would be best to install no new wiring.

4. 20% would be about 115 units.

5. Almost everyone has high speed internet.  10Mbps downlink is easy and 
cheap to get on the cable TV network.  I'm not sure about the phone 
network but I'm guessing 6Mbps is the top for that.  I would think 
either of those would support some sort of streaming application.

Thanks,
Jim

YES NOPE9 wrote:
> I am confused about what you are asking for.
> #1  Although aesthetics prevent the installation of satellite dishes, 
> what about dishes disguised as something else ?
>          Perhaps foam statues of Zeus.  Perhaps this would reduce the 
> distance you have to send cabled signals ?
> #2  Have you asked a satellite TV service if they have a solution for 
> this ?
> #3  You seem to be saying you can't install cabling and that the 
> existing cabling is spoken for.   Maybe I misunderstood this.  You 
> seem to be left with wireless as a possibility.  
> #4   How many installations does 20% of the residents represent ?
> #5   Do the residents have high speed internet ?  Streaming television 
> shows seems to be easier to do all the time.
>
> If you explain more about your desires and constraints , maybe I can help.
>
> Gus
>
>
>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Jim Ockers wrote:
>>
>> Hi CLUEbies,
>>
>> This isn't necessarily a Linux specific question but it is technical 
>> in nature and I'm not sure who/where to ask for advice.
>>
>> Suppose you have a complex of MURBs (multi unit residential 
>> buildings) with aesthetics bylaws prohibiting satellite dishes 
>> anywhere on the outside of the building.  Maybe 10-20% of residents 
>> want some sort of satellite TV.  There are acres of rooftop on which 
>> satellite dishes could be placed, but the individual residents don't 
>> have rooftop access, nor can they run wires from the roof into their 
>> suites.
>>
>> The buildings are already wired for cable TV but the local cable 
>> company already has the distribution end of the wires.  The buildings 
>> also are wired CAT5 for the phone lines and the local telco has the 
>> distribution end of those wires too.
>>
>> What are some ways we could allow residents to access satellite TV 
>> signals of their choosing, while using their own descrambler or 
>> subscription device?  To me this seems to mean we would need to 
>> distribute a variety of RF signals (depending on the satellite) 
>> somehow.  Is there some other way to do it?  I think we could not 
>> descramble all of the signals and put them on slingbox-type devices 
>> for everyone to use for free, because that probably violates the 
>> terms of use of any of the satellite TV service.
>>
>> We could maybe charge an "installation fee" and have the facility 
>> electricians install some sort of wiring or cabling, but this can get 
>> complicated and the distance might be REALLY far (like almost 1Km), 
>> which is probably too long for RG-58 cabling with satellite TV signal 
>> levels.
>>
>> However maybe there are some clever things we could do with MythTV or 
>> something?
>>
>> Any suggestions or ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>> -- 
>> Jim Ockers, P.Eng. (ockers at ockers.net)
>> Contact info: http://www.ockers.ca/pason.html
>>
>>     

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